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      3  1.1  dholland NetBSD Mobile Roadmap
      4  1.1  dholland =====================
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      6  1.1  dholland This roadmap is meant to cover issues specifically pertaining to
      7  1.1  dholland mobile use, that is, devices that run on batteries and get carried
      8  1.1  dholland around. This includes:
      9  1.1  dholland    - phones
     10  1.1  dholland    - tablets
     11  1.1  dholland    - tablet PCs
     12  1.1  dholland    - laptops
     13  1.1  dholland The typical assumption right now is that phones and tablets have one
     14  1.1  dholland software stack (iOS, Android) and work one way, and laptops, including
     15  1.1  dholland tablet PCs, have another software stack (Windows, MacOS, Linux) and
     16  1.1  dholland work another way. The "laptop" software stack is more or less the same
     17  1.1  dholland as the "desktop" software stack, modulo some laptop-specific issues.
     18  1.1  dholland Those laptop-specific issues are covered in this file; the rest of
     19  1.1  dholland that software stack is discussed in the "desktop" roadmap. This file
     20  1.1  dholland also covers the phone/tablet software stack.
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     22  1.1  dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are considered strategic
     23  1.1  dholland priorities for the project:
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     25  1.1  dholland  1. Tickless timers/scheduling
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     27  1.1  dholland These elements, projects, and goals are more or less long-term goals:
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     29  1.1  dholland  2. Power management concerns
     30  1.1  dholland  3. Suspending
     31  1.1  dholland  4. atrun considered harmful
     32  1.1  dholland  5. (Wireless config issues are in the "desktop" roadmap)
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     34  1.1  dholland These elements, projects, and goals are for the time being pretty much
     35  1.1  dholland blue sky:
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     37  1.1  dholland  6. Touchscreen (phone/tablet) UI
     38  1.1  dholland  7. Support for phone hardware
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     41  1.1  dholland Explanations
     42  1.1  dholland ============
     43  1.1  dholland 
     44  1.1  dholland 1. Tickless timers/scheduling
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     46  1.1  dholland The basic premise with a tickless system is that instead of generating
     47  1.1  dholland a timer interrupt HZ times a second, one programs a high-resolution
     48  1.1  dholland timer on the fly to interrupt the next time something needs to happen.
     49  1.1  dholland This can substantially reduce the number of timer interrupts taken,
     50  1.1  dholland and also importantly it avoids waking the system up regularly when
     51  1.1  dholland otherwise idle and reduces power consumption and heating.
     52  1.1  dholland 
     53  1.1  dholland There has been a fair amount of talk about this but so far no real
     54  1.1  dholland action.
     55  1.1  dholland 
     56  1.1  dholland   - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this.
     57  1.1  dholland   - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
     58  1.1  dholland   - Contact: ? (XXX)
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     61  1.1  dholland 2. Power management concerns
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     63  1.1  dholland NetBSD's power management infrastructure is fairly lacking. We don't
     64  1.1  dholland have good CPU clock rate throttling, we mostly don't have the ability
     65  1.1  dholland to power down idle devices, and we don't have a configuration and
     66  1.1  dholland control setup to manage it either. On x86 we also don't support a
     67  1.1  dholland number of important ACPI sleep/idle states.
     68  1.1  dholland 
     69  1.1  dholland At the moment there isn't even a good inventory of what needs to be
     70  1.1  dholland done in this department. Someone please write it and put it here.
     71  1.1  dholland 
     72  1.1  dholland   - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this.
     73  1.1  dholland   - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
     74  1.1  dholland   - Contact: ? (XXX)
     75  1.1  dholland 
     76  1.1  dholland 
     77  1.1  dholland 3. Suspending
     78  1.1  dholland 
     79  1.1  dholland Currently suspending mostly doesn't work, and the chances of being
     80  1.1  dholland able to suspend any given laptop model successfully are low until
     81  1.1  dholland someone using it gets annoyed enough to sit down and make it behave.
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     83  1.1  dholland We need to fix this, both by adding suspend hooks to drivers that are
     84  1.1  dholland missing them and also (ideally) by coming up with a better way to cope
     85  1.1  dholland with drivers that don't know how to suspend.
     86  1.1  dholland 
     87  1.1  dholland   - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be specifically working on
     88  1.1  dholland     this, although work on individual drivers occurs sporadically.
     89  1.1  dholland   - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
     90  1.1  dholland   - Contact: ? (XXX)
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     93  1.1  dholland 4. atrun considered harmful
     94  1.1  dholland 
     95  1.1  dholland There are a number of things on the system that unnecessarily wake up
     96  1.1  dholland and take cpu time and power on a regular basis. One of the big
     97  1.1  dholland offenders is atrun -- it should be changed either to be a daemon that
     98  1.1  dholland wakes up only when it has a job to run, integrated into cron to the
     99  1.1  dholland same end, or changed around in some other similar fashion.
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    101  1.1  dholland One can always turn atrun off, but there's no particular reason that
    102  1.1  dholland at(1) functionality should be unavailable on laptops.
    103  1.1  dholland 
    104  1.1  dholland   - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be specifically working on
    105  1.1  dholland     this, although work on individual drivers occurs sporadically.
    106  1.1  dholland   - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
    107  1.1  dholland   - Contact: ? (XXX)
    108  1.1  dholland 
    109  1.1  dholland 
    110  1.1  dholland 6. Touchscreen (phone/tablet) UI
    111  1.1  dholland 
    112  1.1  dholland We'd rather like to be able to run on phones, and that means having a
    113  1.1  dholland UI suitable for a phone -- a shell isn't going to cut it, and even a
    114  1.1  dholland shell coupled with a keyboard app isn't really the ticket.
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    116  1.1  dholland This has many of the same kinds of issues as desktop software. Some of
    117  1.1  dholland the specific issues are different; e.g. location handling is a lot
    118  1.1  dholland more critical for phones than for desktops and even laptops.
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    120  1.1  dholland While we don't currently run on any phone platforms (see below)
    121  1.1  dholland there's nothing stopping working on this using older PDA/palmtop
    122  1.1  dholland hardware like hpcarm.
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    125  1.1  dholland 7. Support for phone hardware
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    127  1.2       nia As of 2025, much of the underlying work to support various Arm
    128  1.2       nia SoCs is done, but this point is heavily dependent on item 6 (UI).
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