1 $NetBSD: storage,v 1.30 2025/05/19 18:02:53 nia Exp $ 2 3 NetBSD Storage Roadmap 4 ====================== 5 6 This is a small roadmap document, and deals with the storage and file 7 systems side of the operating system. It discusses elements, projects, 8 and goals that are under development or under discussion; and it is 9 divided into three categories based on perceived priority. 10 11 The following elements, projects, and goals are considered strategic 12 priorities for the project: 13 14 1. Improving iscsi 15 2. nfsv4 support 16 3. A better journaling file system solution 17 4. Stabilizing and improving zfs support 18 5. Seamless full-disk encryption 19 6. Finish tls-maxphys 20 21 The following elements, projects, and goals are not strategic 22 priorities but are still important undertakings worth doing: 23 24 7. lfs64 25 8. Per-process namespaces 26 9. lvm tidyup 27 10. Flash translation layer 28 11. Shingled disk support 29 12. ext3/ext4 support 30 13. Port hammer from Dragonfly 31 14. afs maintenance 32 15. execute-in-place 33 16. extended attributes for acl and capability storage 34 35 The following elements, projects, and goals are perhaps less pressing; 36 this doesn't mean one shouldn't work on them but the expected payoff 37 is perhaps less than for other things: 38 39 17. coda maintenance 40 41 42 Explanations 43 ============ 44 45 1. Improving iscsi 46 ------------------ 47 48 Both the existing iscsi target and initiator are fairly bad code, and 49 neither works terribly well. Fixing this is fairly important as iscsi 50 is where it's at for remote block devices. Note that there appears to 51 be no compelling reason to move the target to the kernel or otherwise 52 make major architectural changes. 53 54 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 55 - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target. 56 - Contact agc for further information. 57 58 59 2. nfsv4 support 60 ---------------- 61 62 nfsv4 is at this point the de facto standard for FS-level (as opposed 63 to block-level) network volumes in production settings. The legacy nfs 64 code currently in NetBSD only supports nfsv2 and nfsv3. 65 66 The intended plan is to port FreeBSD's nfsv4 code, which also includes 67 nfsv2 and nfsv3 support, and eventually transition to it completely, 68 dropping our current nfs code. (Which is kind of a mess.) So far the 69 only step that has been taken is to import the code from FreeBSD. The 70 next step is to update that import (since it was done a while ago now) 71 and then work on getting it to configure and compile. 72 73 - As of January 2017 pgoyette has done a bit of prodding of the code 74 recently, but otherwise nobody is working on this, and a volunteer to 75 take charge and move it forward rapidly is urgently needed. 76 - There is no clear timeframe or release target, although having an 77 experimental version ready for -8 would be great. 78 - Contact dholland for further information. 79 80 81 3. A better journaling file system solution 82 ------------------------------------------- 83 84 WAPBL, the journaling FFS that NetBSD rolled out some time back, has a 85 critical problem: it does not address the historic ffs behavior of 86 allowing stale on-disk data to leak into user files in crashes. And 87 because it runs faster, this happens more often and with more data. 88 This situation is both a correctness and a security liability. Fixing 89 it has turned out to be difficult. It is not really clear what the 90 best option at this point is: 91 92 + Fixing WAPBL (e.g. to flush newly allocated/newly written blocks to 93 disk early) has been examined by several people who know the code base 94 and judged difficult. Also, some other problems have come to light 95 more recently; e.g. PR 50725, and 45676. Still, it might be the best 96 way forward. Some performance and stability issues were resolved 97 in netbsd-8, and more work is planned. 98 99 + There is another journaling FFS; the Harvard one done by Margo 100 Seltzer's group some years back. We have a copy of this, but as it was 101 written in BSD/OS circa 1999 it needs a lot of merging, and then will 102 undoubtedly also need a certain amount of polishing to be ready for 103 production use. It does record-based rather than block-based 104 journaling and does not share the stale data problem. 105 106 + We could bring back softupdates (in the softupdates-with-journaling 107 form found today in FreeBSD) -- this code is even more complicated 108 than the softupdates code we removed back in 2009, and it's not clear 109 that it's any more robust either. However, it would solve the stale 110 data problem if someone wanted to port it over. It isn't clear that 111 this would be any less work than getting the Harvard journaling FFS 112 running... or than writing a whole new file system either. 113 114 + We could write a whole new journaling file system. (That is, not 115 FFS. Doing a new journaling FFS implementation is probably not 116 sensible relative to merging the Harvard journaling FFS.) This is a 117 big project. 118 119 Right now it is not clear which of these avenues is the best way 120 forward. Given the general manpower shortage, it may be that the best 121 way is whatever looks best to someone who wants to work on the 122 problem. 123 124 - There is no clear timeframe or release target; but given that WAPBL 125 has been disabled by default for new installs in -7 this problem 126 can reasonably be said to have become critical. 127 - jdolecek fixed some WAPBL stability issues, that work is included 128 in netbsd-8, could be possibly enough for making it default for new 129 installs again; there is kern/47030 which seems to be triggered by WAPBL 130 however 131 - There has been some interest in the Harvard journaling FFS but no 132 significant progress. Nobody is known to be working on or particularly 133 interested in porting softupdates-with-journaling. And, while 134 dholland has been mumbling for some time about a plan for a 135 specific new file system to solve this problem, there isn't any 136 realistic prospect of significant progress on that in the 137 foreseeable future, and nobody else is known to have or be working 138 on even that much. 139 - Contact joerg, martin, or jdolecek regarding WAPBL; contact dholland 140 regarding the Harvard journaling FFS. 141 142 143 5. Seamless full-disk encryption 144 -------------------------------- 145 146 (This is only sort of a storage issue.) We have cgd, and it is 147 believed to still be cryptographically suitable, at least for the time 148 being. However, we don't have any of the following things: 149 150 + An easy way to install a machine with full-disk encryption. It 151 should really just be a checkbox item in sysinst, or not much more 152 than that. 153 154 + Ideally, also an easy way to turn on full-disk encryption for a 155 machine that's already been installed, though this is harder. 156 157 + A good story for booting off a disk that is otherwise encrypted; 158 obviously one cannot encrypt the bootblocks, but it isn't clear where 159 in boot the encrypted volume should take over, or how to make a best 160 effort at protecting the unencrypted elements needed to boot. (At 161 least, in the absence of something like UEFI secure boot combined with 162 a cryptographic oracle to sign your bootloader image so UEFI will 163 accept it.) There's also the question of how one runs cgdconfig(8) and 164 where the cgdconfig binary comes from. 165 166 + A reasonable way to handle volume passphrases. MacOS apparently uses 167 login passwords for this (or as passphrases for secondary keys, or 168 something) and this seems to work well enough apart from the somewhat 169 surreal experience of sometimes having to log in twice. However, it 170 will complicate the bootup story. 171 172 Given the increasing regulatory-level importance of full-disk 173 encryption, this is at least a de facto requirement for using NetBSD 174 on laptops in many circumstances. 175 176 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 177 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 178 - Contact dholland for further information. 179 180 181 6. Finish tls-maxphys 182 --------------------- 183 184 The tls-maxphys branch changes MAXPHYS (the maximum size of a single 185 I/O request) from a global fixed constant to a value that's probed 186 separately for each particular I/O channel based on its 187 capabilities. Large values are highly desirable for e.g. feeding large 188 disk arrays and SSDs, but do not work with all hardware. 189 190 The code is nearly done and just needs more testing and support in 191 more drivers. 192 193 - On October 2017 jdolecek re-synced the branch, intention is to wrap 194 this up for future netbsd-9 195 - Contact jdolecek or tls for further information. 196 197 198 7. lfs64 199 -------- 200 201 LFS currently only supports volumes up to 2 TB. As LFS is of interest 202 for use on shingled disks (which are larger than 2 TB) and also for 203 use on disk arrays (ditto) this is something of a problem. A 64-bit 204 version of LFS for large volumes is in the works. 205 206 - dholland was working on this in fall 2015 but time to finish it 207 dried up. 208 - The goal now is to get a few remaining things done in time for 8.0 209 so it will at least be ready for experimental use there. 210 - Responsible: dholland 211 212 213 8. Per-process namespaces 214 ------------------------- 215 216 Support for per-process variation of the file system namespace enables 217 a number of things; more flexible chroots, for example, and also 218 potentially more efficient pkgsrc builds. dholland thought up a 219 somewhat hackish but low-footprint way to implement this, and has a 220 preliminary implementation, but concluded the scheme was too fragile 221 for production. A different approach is probably needed, although the 222 existing code could be tidied up and committed if that seems desirable. 223 224 - As of January 2017 nobody is working on this. 225 - Contact: dholland 226 227 228 9. lvm tidyup 229 -------------- 230 231 [agc says someone should look at our lvm stuff; XXX fill this in] 232 233 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 234 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 235 - Contact agc for further information. 236 237 238 10. Flash translation layer 239 --------------------------- 240 241 SSDs ship with firmware called a "flash translation layer" that 242 arbitrates between the block device software expects to see and the 243 raw flash chips. FTLs handle wear leveling, lifetime management, and 244 also internal caching, striping, and other performance concerns. While 245 NetBSD has a file system for raw flash (chfs), it seems that given 246 things NetBSD is often used for it ought to come with a flash 247 translation layer as well. 248 249 Note that this is an area where writing your own is probably a bad 250 plan; it is a complicated area with a lot of prior art that's also 251 reportedly full of patent mines. There are a couple of open FTL 252 implementations that we might be able to import. 253 254 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 255 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 256 - Contact dholland for further information. 257 258 259 11. Shingled disk support 260 ------------------------- 261 262 Shingled disks (or more technically, disks with "shingled magnetic 263 recording" or SMR) can only write whole tracks at once. Thus, to 264 operate effectively they require translation support similar to the 265 flash translation layers found in SSDs. The nature and structure of 266 shingle translation layers is still being researched; however, at some 267 point we will want to support these things in NetBSD. 268 269 - As of 2016 one of dholland's coworkers was looking at this. 270 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 271 - Contact dholland for further information. 272 273 274 12. ext3/ext4 support 275 --------------------- 276 277 Currently people are mostly using the kernel implementation of 278 ext2 or using filesystems/fuse-ext2 from pkgsrc for later versions. 279 280 We would like to be able to read and write Linux ext3fs and ext4fs 281 volumes. (We can already read clean ext3fs volumes as they're the same 282 as ext2fs, modulo volume features our ext2fs code does not support; 283 but we can't write them.) 284 285 Ideally someone would write ext3 and/or ext4 code, whether integrated 286 with or separate from the ext2 code we already have. It might also 287 make sense to port or wrap the Linux ext3 or ext4 code so it can be 288 loaded as a GPL'd kernel module; it isn't clear if that would be more 289 or less work than doing an implementation. 290 291 Note however that implementing ext3 has already defeated several 292 people; this is a harder project than it looks. 293 294 - GSoc 2016 brought support for extents, and also ro support for dir 295 hashes; jdolecek also implemented several frequently used ext4 features 296 so most contemporary ext filesystems should be possible to mount 297 read-write 298 - still need rw dir_nhash and xattr (semi-easy), and eventually journaling 299 (hard) 300 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 301 - jdolecek is working on improving ext3/ext4 support (particularly 302 journaling) 303 304 305 13. Port hammer from Dragonfly 306 ------------------------------ 307 308 While the motivation for and role of hammer isn't perhaps super 309 persuasive, it would still be good to have it. Porting it from 310 Dragonfly is probably not that painful (compared to, say, zfs) but as 311 the Dragonfly and NetBSD VFS layers have diverged in different 312 directions from the original 4.4BSD, may not be entirely trivial 313 either. 314 315 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 316 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 317 - There probably isn't any particular person to contact; for VFS 318 concerns contact dholland or hannken. 319 320 321 14. afs maintenance 322 ------------------- 323 324 AFS needs periodic care and feeding to continue working as NetBSD 325 changes, because the kernel-level bits aren't kept in the NetBSD tree 326 and don't get updated with other things. This is an ongoing issue that 327 always seems to need more manpower than it gets. It might make sense 328 to import some of the kernel AFS code, or maybe even just some of the 329 glue layer that it uses, in order to keep it more current. 330 331 - jakllsch sometimes works on this. 332 - We would like every release to have working AFS by the time it's 333 released. 334 - Contact jakllsch or gendalia about AFS; for VFS concerns contact 335 dholland or hannken. 336 337 338 15. execute-in-place 339 -------------------- 340 341 It is likely that the future includes non-volatile storage (so-called 342 "nvram") that looks like RAM from the perspective of software. Most 343 importantly: the storage is memory-mapped rather than looking like a 344 disk controller. There are a number of things NetBSD ought to have to 345 be ready for this, of which probably the most important is 346 "execute-in-place": when an executable is run from such storage, and 347 mapped into user memory with mmap, the storage hardware pages should 348 be able to appear directly in user memory. Right now they get 349 gratuitously copied into RAM, which is slow and wasteful. There are 350 also other reasons (e.g. embedded device ROMs) to want execute-in- 351 place support. 352 353 Note that at the implementation level this is a UVM issue rather than 354 strictly a storage issue. 355 356 Also note that one does not need access to nvram hardware to work on 357 this issue; given the performance profiles touted for nvram 358 technologies, a plain RAM disk like md(4) is sufficient both 359 structurally and for performance analysis. 360 361 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. Some 362 time back, uebayasi wrote some preliminary patches, but they were 363 rejected by the UVM maintainers. 364 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 365 - Contact dholland for further information. 366 367 368 16. use extended attributes for ACL and capability storage 369 ---------------------------------------------------------- 370 371 Currently there is some support for extended attributes in ffs, 372 but nothing really uses it. I would be nice if we came up with 373 a standard format to store ACL's and capabilities like Linux has. 374 The various tools must be modified to understand this and be able 375 to copy them if requested. Also tools to manipulate the data will 376 need to be written. 377 378 379 17. coda maintenance 380 -------------------- 381 382 Coda only sort of works. [And I think it's behind relative to 383 upstream, or something of the sort; XXX fill this in.] Also the code 384 appears to have an ugly incestuous relationship with FFS. This should 385 really be cleaned up. That or maybe it's time to remove Coda. 386 387 - As of January 2017 nobody is known to be working on this. 388 - There is no clear timeframe or release target. 389 - There isn't anyone in particular to contact. 390 - Circa 2012 christos made it work read-write and split it 391 into modules. Since then christos has not tested it. 392 393 394 Alistair Crooks, David Holland 395 Fri Nov 20 02:17:53 EST 2015 396 Sun May 1 16:50:42 EDT 2016 (some updates) 397 Fri Jan 13 00:40:50 EST 2017 (some more updates) 398 399