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2 1.1 agc
3 1.1 agc NetBSD Storage Roadmap
4 1.1 agc ======================
5 1.1 agc
6 1.1 agc This is a small roadmap document, and deals with the storage and file
7 1.10 dholland systems side of the operating system. It discusses elements, projects,
8 1.10 dholland and goals that are under development or under discussion; and it is
9 1.10 dholland divided into three categories based on perceived priority.
10 1.10 dholland
11 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are considered strategic
12 1.10 dholland priorities for the project:
13 1.10 dholland
14 1.10 dholland 1. Improving iscsi
15 1.10 dholland 2. nfsv4 support
16 1.10 dholland 3. A better journaling file system solution
17 1.10 dholland 4. Getting zfs working for real
18 1.10 dholland 5. Seamless full-disk encryption
19 1.11 dholland 6. Finish tls-maxphys
20 1.10 dholland
21 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are not strategic
22 1.10 dholland priorities but are still important undertakings worth doing:
23 1.10 dholland
24 1.11 dholland 7. nvme support
25 1.11 dholland 8. lfs64
26 1.11 dholland 9. Per-process namespaces
27 1.11 dholland 10. lvm tidyup
28 1.11 dholland 11. Flash translation layer
29 1.11 dholland 12. Shingled disk support
30 1.11 dholland 13. ext3/ext4 support
31 1.11 dholland 14. Port hammer from Dragonfly
32 1.11 dholland 15. afs maintenance
33 1.11 dholland 16. execute-in-place
34 1.10 dholland
35 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are perhaps less pressing;
36 1.10 dholland this doesn't mean one shouldn't work on them but the expected payoff
37 1.10 dholland is perhaps less than for other things:
38 1.1 agc
39 1.11 dholland 17. coda maintenance
40 1.1 agc
41 1.8 agc
42 1.10 dholland Explanations
43 1.10 dholland ============
44 1.1 agc
45 1.10 dholland 1. Improving iscsi
46 1.10 dholland ------------------
47 1.1 agc
48 1.10 dholland Both the existing iscsi target and initiator are fairly bad code, and
49 1.10 dholland neither works terribly well. Fixing this is fairly important as iscsi
50 1.10 dholland is where it's at for remote block devices. Note that there appears to
51 1.10 dholland be no compelling reason to move the target to the kernel or otherwise
52 1.10 dholland make major architectural changes.
53 1.10 dholland
54 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
55 1.10 dholland - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
56 1.10 dholland - Contact agc for further information.
57 1.10 dholland
58 1.10 dholland
59 1.10 dholland 2. nfsv4 support
60 1.10 dholland ----------------
61 1.10 dholland
62 1.10 dholland nfsv4 is at this point the de facto standard for FS-level (as opposed
63 1.10 dholland to block-level) network volumes in production settings. The legacy nfs
64 1.10 dholland code currently in NetBSD only supports nfsv2 and nfsv3.
65 1.10 dholland
66 1.10 dholland The intended plan is to port FreeBSD's nfsv4 code, which also includes
67 1.10 dholland nfsv2 and nfsv3 support, and eventually transition to it completely,
68 1.10 dholland dropping our current nfs code. (Which is kind of a mess.) So far the
69 1.10 dholland only step that has been taken is to import the code from FreeBSD. The
70 1.10 dholland next step is to update that import (since it was done a while ago now)
71 1.10 dholland and then work on getting it to configure and compile.
72 1.10 dholland
73 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is working on this, and a volunteer to
74 1.10 dholland take charge is urgently needed.
75 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target, although having an
76 1.10 dholland experimental version ready for -8 would be great.
77 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
78 1.10 dholland
79 1.10 dholland
80 1.10 dholland 3. A better journaling file system solution
81 1.10 dholland -------------------------------------------
82 1.10 dholland
83 1.10 dholland WAPBL, the journaling FFS that NetBSD rolled out some time back, has a
84 1.10 dholland critical problem: it does not address the historic ffs behavior of
85 1.10 dholland allowing stale on-disk data to leak into user files in crashes. And
86 1.10 dholland because it runs faster, this happens more often and with more data.
87 1.10 dholland This situation is both a correctness and a security liability. Fixing
88 1.10 dholland it has turned out to be difficult. It is not really clear what the
89 1.10 dholland best option at this point is:
90 1.10 dholland
91 1.10 dholland + Fixing WAPBL (e.g. to flush newly allocated/newly written blocks to
92 1.10 dholland disk early) has been examined by several people who know the code base
93 1.13 dholland and judged difficult. Also, some other problems have come to light
94 1.13 dholland more recently; e.g. PR 50725, PR 47146, and a problem where truncating
95 1.13 dholland large sparse files takes ~forever. Also see PR 45676. Still, it might
96 1.13 dholland be the best way forward.
97 1.10 dholland
98 1.10 dholland + There is another journaling FFS; the Harvard one done by Margo
99 1.10 dholland Seltzer's group some years back. We have a copy of this, but as it was
100 1.10 dholland written in BSD/OS circa 1999 it needs a lot of merging, and then will
101 1.10 dholland undoubtedly also need a certain amount of polishing to be ready for
102 1.10 dholland production use. It does record-based rather than block-based
103 1.10 dholland journaling and does not share the stale data problem.
104 1.10 dholland
105 1.10 dholland + We could bring back softupdates (in the softupdates-with-journaling
106 1.10 dholland form found today in FreeBSD) -- this code is even more complicated
107 1.10 dholland than the softupdates code we removed back in 2009, and it's not clear
108 1.10 dholland that it's any more robust either. However, it would solve the stale
109 1.10 dholland data problem if someone wanted to port it over. It isn't clear that
110 1.10 dholland this would be any less work than getting the Harvard journaling FFS
111 1.10 dholland running... or than writing a whole new file system either.
112 1.10 dholland
113 1.10 dholland + We could write a whole new journaling file system. (That is, not
114 1.10 dholland FFS. Doing a new journaling FFS implementation is probably not
115 1.10 dholland sensible relative to merging the Harvard journaling FFS.) This is a
116 1.10 dholland big project.
117 1.10 dholland
118 1.10 dholland Right now it is not clear which of these avenues is the best way
119 1.10 dholland forward. Given the general manpower shortage, it may be that the best
120 1.10 dholland way is whatever looks best to someone who wants to work on the
121 1.10 dholland problem.
122 1.10 dholland
123 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is working on fixing WAPBL. There has
124 1.10 dholland been some interest in the Harvard journaling FFS but no significant
125 1.10 dholland progress. Nobody is known to be working on or particularly
126 1.10 dholland interested in porting softupdates-with-journaling. And, while
127 1.10 dholland dholland has been mumbling for some time about a plan for a
128 1.10 dholland specific new file system to solve this problem, there isn't any
129 1.10 dholland realistic prospect of significant progress on that in the
130 1.10 dholland foreseeable future, and nobody else is known to have or be working
131 1.10 dholland on even that much.
132 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target; but given that WAPBL
133 1.10 dholland has been disabled by default for new installs in -7 this problem
134 1.10 dholland can reasonably be said to have become critical.
135 1.10 dholland - Contact joerg or martin regarding WAPBL; contact dholland regarding
136 1.10 dholland the Harvard journaling FFS.
137 1.10 dholland
138 1.10 dholland
139 1.10 dholland 4. Getting zfs working for real
140 1.10 dholland -------------------------------
141 1.10 dholland
142 1.10 dholland ZFS has been almost working for years now. It is high time we got it
143 1.10 dholland really working. One of the things this entails is updating the ZFS
144 1.10 dholland code, as what we have is rather old. The Illumos version is probably
145 1.10 dholland what we want for this.
146 1.10 dholland
147 1.10 dholland - There has been intermittent work on zfs, but as of November 2015
148 1.10 dholland nobody is known to be actively working on it
149 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
150 1.10 dholland - Contact riastradh or ?? for further information.
151 1.1 agc
152 1.1 agc
153 1.10 dholland 5. Seamless full-disk encryption
154 1.10 dholland --------------------------------
155 1.1 agc
156 1.10 dholland (This is only sort of a storage issue.) We have cgd, and it is
157 1.10 dholland believed to still be cryptographically suitable, at least for the time
158 1.10 dholland being. However, we don't have any of the following things:
159 1.1 agc
160 1.10 dholland + An easy way to install a machine with full-disk encryption. It
161 1.10 dholland should really just be a checkbox item in sysinst, or not much more
162 1.10 dholland than that.
163 1.5 agc
164 1.10 dholland + Ideally, also an easy way to turn on full-disk encryption for a
165 1.10 dholland machine that's already been installed, though this is harder.
166 1.1 agc
167 1.10 dholland + A good story for booting off a disk that is otherwise encrypted;
168 1.10 dholland obviously one cannot encrypt the bootblocks, but it isn't clear where
169 1.10 dholland in boot the encrypted volume should take over, or how to make a best
170 1.10 dholland effort at protecting the unencrypted elements needed to boot. (At
171 1.10 dholland least, in the absence of something like UEFI secure boot combined with
172 1.10 dholland an cryptographic oracle to sign your bootloader image so UEFI will
173 1.10 dholland accept it.) There's also the question of how one runs cgdconfig(8) and
174 1.10 dholland where the cgdconfig binary comes from.
175 1.1 agc
176 1.10 dholland + A reasonable way to handle volume passphrases. MacOS apparently uses
177 1.10 dholland login passwords for this (or as passphrases for secondary keys, or
178 1.10 dholland something) and this seems to work well enough apart from the somewhat
179 1.10 dholland surreal experience of sometimes having to log in twice. However, it
180 1.10 dholland will complicate the bootup story.
181 1.1 agc
182 1.10 dholland Given the increasing regulatory-level importance of full-disk
183 1.10 dholland encryption, this is at least a de facto requirement for using NetBSD
184 1.10 dholland on laptops in many circumstances.
185 1.1 agc
186 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
187 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
188 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
189 1.5 agc
190 1.5 agc
191 1.11 dholland 6. Finish tls-maxphys
192 1.11 dholland ---------------------
193 1.11 dholland
194 1.11 dholland The tls-maxphys branch changes MAXPHYS (the maximum size of a single
195 1.11 dholland I/O request) from a global fixed constant to a value that's probed
196 1.11 dholland separately for each particular I/O channel based on its
197 1.11 dholland capabilities. Large values are highly desirable for e.g. feeding large
198 1.11 dholland disk arrays but do not work with all hardware.
199 1.11 dholland
200 1.11 dholland The code is nearly done and just needs more testing and support in
201 1.11 dholland more drivers.
202 1.11 dholland
203 1.11 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
204 1.11 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
205 1.11 dholland - Contact tls for further information.
206 1.11 dholland
207 1.11 dholland
208 1.11 dholland 7. nvme suppport
209 1.11 dholland ----------------
210 1.11 dholland
211 1.11 dholland nvme ("NVM Express") is a hardware interface standard for PCI-attached
212 1.12 dholland SSDs. NetBSD now has a driver for these; however, it was ported from
213 1.12 dholland OpenBSD and is not (yet) MPSAFE. This is, unfortunately, a fairly
214 1.12 dholland serious limitation given the point and nature of nvme devices.
215 1.11 dholland
216 1.11 dholland Relatedly, the I/O path needs to be restructured to avoid software
217 1.11 dholland bottlenecks on the way to an nvme device: they are fast enough that
218 1.11 dholland things like disksort() do not make sense.
219 1.11 dholland
220 1.11 dholland Semi-relatedly, it is also time for scsipi to become MPSAFE.
221 1.11 dholland
222 1.12 dholland - As of May 2016 a port of OpenBSD's driver has been commited. This
223 1.12 dholland will be in -8.
224 1.14 mlelstv - The nvme driver is a backend to ld(4) which is MPSAFE, but we still
225 1.14 mlelstv need to attend to I/O path bottlenecks. Better instrumentation
226 1.14 mlelstv is needed.
227 1.12 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target for these points.
228 1.11 dholland - Contact msaitoh or agc for further information.
229 1.11 dholland
230 1.11 dholland
231 1.11 dholland 8. lfs64
232 1.10 dholland --------
233 1.5 agc
234 1.10 dholland LFS currently only supports volumes up to 2 TB. As LFS is of interest
235 1.10 dholland for use on shingled disks (which are larger than 2 TB) and also for
236 1.10 dholland use on disk arrays (ditto) this is something of a problem. A 64-bit
237 1.10 dholland version of LFS for large volumes is in the works.
238 1.5 agc
239 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 dholland is working on this.
240 1.10 dholland - It is close to being ready for at least experimental use and is
241 1.10 dholland expected to be in 8.0.
242 1.10 dholland - Responsible: dholland
243 1.5 agc
244 1.8 agc
245 1.11 dholland 9. Per-process namespaces
246 1.10 dholland -------------------------
247 1.5 agc
248 1.10 dholland Support for per-process variation of the file system namespace enables
249 1.10 dholland a number of things; more flexible chroots, for example, and also
250 1.10 dholland potentially more efficient pkgsrc builds. dholland thought up a
251 1.10 dholland somewhat hackish but low-footprint way to implement this.
252 1.5 agc
253 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 dholland is working on this.
254 1.10 dholland - It is scheduled to be in 8.0.
255 1.10 dholland - Responsible: dholland
256 1.5 agc
257 1.8 agc
258 1.11 dholland 10. lvm tidyup
259 1.11 dholland --------------
260 1.5 agc
261 1.10 dholland [agc says someone should look at our lvm stuff; XXX fill this in]
262 1.5 agc
263 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
264 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
265 1.10 dholland - Contact agc for further information.
266 1.5 agc
267 1.1 agc
268 1.11 dholland 11. Flash translation layer
269 1.11 dholland ---------------------------
270 1.9 agc
271 1.10 dholland SSDs ship with firmware called a "flash translation layer" that
272 1.10 dholland arbitrates between the block device software expects to see and the
273 1.10 dholland raw flash chips. FTLs handle wear leveling, lifetime management, and
274 1.10 dholland also internal caching, striping, and other performance concerns. While
275 1.10 dholland NetBSD has a file system for raw flash (chfs), it seems that given
276 1.10 dholland things NetBSD is often used for it ought to come with a flash
277 1.10 dholland translation layer as well.
278 1.10 dholland
279 1.10 dholland Note that this is an area where writing your own is probably a bad
280 1.10 dholland plan; it is a complicated area with a lot of prior art that's also
281 1.10 dholland reportedly full of patent mines. There are a couple of open FTL
282 1.10 dholland implementations that we might be able to import.
283 1.10 dholland
284 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
285 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
286 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
287 1.10 dholland
288 1.10 dholland
289 1.11 dholland 12. Shingled disk support
290 1.10 dholland -------------------------
291 1.10 dholland
292 1.10 dholland Shingled disks (or more technically, disks with "shingled magnetic
293 1.10 dholland recording" or SMR) can only write whole tracks at once. Thus, to
294 1.10 dholland operate effectively they require translation support similar to the
295 1.10 dholland flash translation layers found in SSDs. The nature and structure of
296 1.10 dholland shingle translation layers is still being researched; however, at some
297 1.10 dholland point we will want to support these things in NetBSD.
298 1.10 dholland
299 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 one of dholland's coworkers is looking at this.
300 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
301 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
302 1.10 dholland
303 1.10 dholland
304 1.11 dholland 13. ext3/ext4 support
305 1.10 dholland ---------------------
306 1.10 dholland
307 1.10 dholland We would like to be able to read and write Linux ext3fs and ext4fs
308 1.10 dholland volumes. (We can already read clean ext3fs volumes as they're the same
309 1.10 dholland as ext2fs, modulo volume features our ext2fs code does not support;
310 1.10 dholland but we can't write them.)
311 1.10 dholland
312 1.10 dholland Ideally someone would write ext3 and/or ext4 code, whether integrated
313 1.10 dholland with or separate from the ext2 code we already have. It might also
314 1.10 dholland make sense to port or wrap the Linux ext3 or ext4 code so it can be
315 1.10 dholland loaded as a GPL'd kernel module; it isn't clear if that would be more
316 1.10 dholland or less work than doing an implementation.
317 1.10 dholland
318 1.10 dholland Note however that implementing ext3 has already defeated several
319 1.10 dholland people; this is a harder project than it looks.
320 1.10 dholland
321 1.12 dholland - As of May 2016 there is a GSoC project to implement read-only ext4
322 1.12 dholland support, but (it not being summer yet) no particular progress.
323 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
324 1.10 dholland - Contact ?? for further information.
325 1.10 dholland
326 1.10 dholland
327 1.11 dholland 14. Port hammer from Dragonfly
328 1.10 dholland ------------------------------
329 1.10 dholland
330 1.10 dholland While the motivation for and role of hammer isn't perhaps super
331 1.10 dholland persuasive, it would still be good to have it. Porting it from
332 1.10 dholland Dragonfly is probably not that painful (compared to, say, zfs) but as
333 1.10 dholland the Dragonfly and NetBSD VFS layers have diverged in different
334 1.10 dholland directions from the original 4.4BSD, may not be entirely trivial
335 1.10 dholland either.
336 1.10 dholland
337 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
338 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
339 1.10 dholland - There probably isn't any particular person to contact; for VFS
340 1.10 dholland concerns contact dholland or hannken.
341 1.10 dholland
342 1.10 dholland
343 1.11 dholland 15. afs maintenance
344 1.10 dholland -------------------
345 1.10 dholland
346 1.10 dholland AFS needs periodic care and feeding to continue working as NetBSD
347 1.10 dholland changes, because the kernel-level bits aren't kept in the NetBSD tree
348 1.10 dholland and don't get updated with other things. This is an ongoing issue that
349 1.10 dholland always seems to need more manpower than it gets. It might make sense
350 1.10 dholland to import some of the kernel AFS code, or maybe even just some of the
351 1.10 dholland glue layer that it uses, in order to keep it more current.
352 1.10 dholland
353 1.10 dholland - jakllsch sometimes works on this.
354 1.10 dholland - We would like every release to have working AFS by the time it's
355 1.10 dholland released.
356 1.10 dholland - Contact jakllsch or gendalia about AFS; for VFS concerns contact
357 1.10 dholland dholland or hannken.
358 1.10 dholland
359 1.10 dholland
360 1.11 dholland 16. execute-in-place
361 1.10 dholland --------------------
362 1.10 dholland
363 1.10 dholland It is likely that the future includes non-volatile storage (so-called
364 1.10 dholland "nvram") that looks like RAM from the perspective of software. Most
365 1.10 dholland importantly: the storage is memory-mapped rather than looking like a
366 1.10 dholland disk controller. There are a number of things NetBSD ought to have to
367 1.10 dholland be ready for this, of which probably the most important is
368 1.10 dholland "execute-in-place": when an executable is run from such storage, and
369 1.10 dholland mapped into user memory with mmap, the storage hardware pages should
370 1.10 dholland be able to appear directly in user memory. Right now they get
371 1.10 dholland gratuitously copied into RAM, which is slow and wasteful. There are
372 1.10 dholland also other reasons (e.g. embedded device ROMs) to want execute-in-
373 1.10 dholland place support.
374 1.10 dholland
375 1.10 dholland Note that at the implementation level this is a UVM issue rather than
376 1.10 dholland strictly a storage issue.
377 1.10 dholland
378 1.10 dholland Also note that one does not need access to nvram hardware to work on
379 1.10 dholland this issue; given the performance profiles touted for nvram
380 1.10 dholland technologies, a plain RAM disk like md(4) is sufficient both
381 1.10 dholland structurally and for performance analysis.
382 1.10 dholland
383 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this. Some
384 1.10 dholland time back, uebayasi wrote some preliminary patches, but they were
385 1.10 dholland rejected by the UVM maintainers.
386 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
387 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
388 1.10 dholland
389 1.10 dholland
390 1.11 dholland 17. coda maintenance
391 1.10 dholland --------------------
392 1.10 dholland
393 1.10 dholland Coda only sort of works. [And I think it's behind relative to
394 1.10 dholland upstream, or something of the sort; XXX fill this in.] Also the code
395 1.10 dholland appears to have an ugly incestuous relationship with FFS. This should
396 1.10 dholland really be cleaned up. That or maybe it's time to remove Coda.
397 1.10 dholland
398 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
399 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
400 1.10 dholland - There isn't anyone in particular to contact.
401 1.9 agc
402 1.9 agc
403 1.9 agc Alistair Crooks, David Holland
404 1.10 dholland Fri Nov 20 02:17:53 EST 2015
405 1.12 dholland Sun May 1 16:50:42 EDT 2016 (some updates)
406 1.12 dholland
407