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2 1.1 agc
3 1.1 agc NetBSD Storage Roadmap
4 1.1 agc ======================
5 1.1 agc
6 1.1 agc This is a small roadmap document, and deals with the storage and file
7 1.10 dholland systems side of the operating system. It discusses elements, projects,
8 1.10 dholland and goals that are under development or under discussion; and it is
9 1.10 dholland divided into three categories based on perceived priority.
10 1.10 dholland
11 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are considered strategic
12 1.10 dholland priorities for the project:
13 1.10 dholland
14 1.10 dholland 1. Improving iscsi
15 1.10 dholland 2. nfsv4 support
16 1.10 dholland 3. A better journaling file system solution
17 1.10 dholland 4. Getting zfs working for real
18 1.10 dholland 5. Seamless full-disk encryption
19 1.11 dholland 6. Finish tls-maxphys
20 1.10 dholland
21 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are not strategic
22 1.10 dholland priorities but are still important undertakings worth doing:
23 1.10 dholland
24 1.11 dholland 7. nvme support
25 1.11 dholland 8. lfs64
26 1.11 dholland 9. Per-process namespaces
27 1.11 dholland 10. lvm tidyup
28 1.11 dholland 11. Flash translation layer
29 1.11 dholland 12. Shingled disk support
30 1.11 dholland 13. ext3/ext4 support
31 1.11 dholland 14. Port hammer from Dragonfly
32 1.11 dholland 15. afs maintenance
33 1.11 dholland 16. execute-in-place
34 1.15 christos 17. extended attributes for acl and capability storage
35 1.10 dholland
36 1.10 dholland The following elements, projects, and goals are perhaps less pressing;
37 1.10 dholland this doesn't mean one shouldn't work on them but the expected payoff
38 1.10 dholland is perhaps less than for other things:
39 1.1 agc
40 1.15 christos 18. coda maintenance
41 1.1 agc
42 1.8 agc
43 1.10 dholland Explanations
44 1.10 dholland ============
45 1.1 agc
46 1.10 dholland 1. Improving iscsi
47 1.10 dholland ------------------
48 1.1 agc
49 1.10 dholland Both the existing iscsi target and initiator are fairly bad code, and
50 1.10 dholland neither works terribly well. Fixing this is fairly important as iscsi
51 1.10 dholland is where it's at for remote block devices. Note that there appears to
52 1.10 dholland be no compelling reason to move the target to the kernel or otherwise
53 1.10 dholland make major architectural changes.
54 1.10 dholland
55 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
56 1.10 dholland - There is currently no clear timeframe or release target.
57 1.10 dholland - Contact agc for further information.
58 1.10 dholland
59 1.10 dholland
60 1.10 dholland 2. nfsv4 support
61 1.10 dholland ----------------
62 1.10 dholland
63 1.10 dholland nfsv4 is at this point the de facto standard for FS-level (as opposed
64 1.10 dholland to block-level) network volumes in production settings. The legacy nfs
65 1.10 dholland code currently in NetBSD only supports nfsv2 and nfsv3.
66 1.10 dholland
67 1.10 dholland The intended plan is to port FreeBSD's nfsv4 code, which also includes
68 1.10 dholland nfsv2 and nfsv3 support, and eventually transition to it completely,
69 1.10 dholland dropping our current nfs code. (Which is kind of a mess.) So far the
70 1.10 dholland only step that has been taken is to import the code from FreeBSD. The
71 1.10 dholland next step is to update that import (since it was done a while ago now)
72 1.10 dholland and then work on getting it to configure and compile.
73 1.10 dholland
74 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is working on this, and a volunteer to
75 1.10 dholland take charge is urgently needed.
76 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target, although having an
77 1.10 dholland experimental version ready for -8 would be great.
78 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
79 1.10 dholland
80 1.10 dholland
81 1.10 dholland 3. A better journaling file system solution
82 1.10 dholland -------------------------------------------
83 1.10 dholland
84 1.10 dholland WAPBL, the journaling FFS that NetBSD rolled out some time back, has a
85 1.10 dholland critical problem: it does not address the historic ffs behavior of
86 1.10 dholland allowing stale on-disk data to leak into user files in crashes. And
87 1.10 dholland because it runs faster, this happens more often and with more data.
88 1.10 dholland This situation is both a correctness and a security liability. Fixing
89 1.10 dholland it has turned out to be difficult. It is not really clear what the
90 1.10 dholland best option at this point is:
91 1.10 dholland
92 1.10 dholland + Fixing WAPBL (e.g. to flush newly allocated/newly written blocks to
93 1.10 dholland disk early) has been examined by several people who know the code base
94 1.13 dholland and judged difficult. Also, some other problems have come to light
95 1.13 dholland more recently; e.g. PR 50725, PR 47146, and a problem where truncating
96 1.13 dholland large sparse files takes ~forever. Also see PR 45676. Still, it might
97 1.13 dholland be the best way forward.
98 1.10 dholland
99 1.10 dholland + There is another journaling FFS; the Harvard one done by Margo
100 1.10 dholland Seltzer's group some years back. We have a copy of this, but as it was
101 1.10 dholland written in BSD/OS circa 1999 it needs a lot of merging, and then will
102 1.10 dholland undoubtedly also need a certain amount of polishing to be ready for
103 1.10 dholland production use. It does record-based rather than block-based
104 1.10 dholland journaling and does not share the stale data problem.
105 1.10 dholland
106 1.10 dholland + We could bring back softupdates (in the softupdates-with-journaling
107 1.10 dholland form found today in FreeBSD) -- this code is even more complicated
108 1.10 dholland than the softupdates code we removed back in 2009, and it's not clear
109 1.10 dholland that it's any more robust either. However, it would solve the stale
110 1.10 dholland data problem if someone wanted to port it over. It isn't clear that
111 1.10 dholland this would be any less work than getting the Harvard journaling FFS
112 1.10 dholland running... or than writing a whole new file system either.
113 1.10 dholland
114 1.10 dholland + We could write a whole new journaling file system. (That is, not
115 1.10 dholland FFS. Doing a new journaling FFS implementation is probably not
116 1.10 dholland sensible relative to merging the Harvard journaling FFS.) This is a
117 1.10 dholland big project.
118 1.10 dholland
119 1.10 dholland Right now it is not clear which of these avenues is the best way
120 1.10 dholland forward. Given the general manpower shortage, it may be that the best
121 1.10 dholland way is whatever looks best to someone who wants to work on the
122 1.10 dholland problem.
123 1.10 dholland
124 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is working on fixing WAPBL. There has
125 1.10 dholland been some interest in the Harvard journaling FFS but no significant
126 1.10 dholland progress. Nobody is known to be working on or particularly
127 1.10 dholland interested in porting softupdates-with-journaling. And, while
128 1.10 dholland dholland has been mumbling for some time about a plan for a
129 1.10 dholland specific new file system to solve this problem, there isn't any
130 1.10 dholland realistic prospect of significant progress on that in the
131 1.10 dholland foreseeable future, and nobody else is known to have or be working
132 1.10 dholland on even that much.
133 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target; but given that WAPBL
134 1.10 dholland has been disabled by default for new installs in -7 this problem
135 1.10 dholland can reasonably be said to have become critical.
136 1.10 dholland - Contact joerg or martin regarding WAPBL; contact dholland regarding
137 1.10 dholland the Harvard journaling FFS.
138 1.10 dholland
139 1.10 dholland
140 1.10 dholland 4. Getting zfs working for real
141 1.10 dholland -------------------------------
142 1.10 dholland
143 1.10 dholland ZFS has been almost working for years now. It is high time we got it
144 1.10 dholland really working. One of the things this entails is updating the ZFS
145 1.10 dholland code, as what we have is rather old. The Illumos version is probably
146 1.10 dholland what we want for this.
147 1.10 dholland
148 1.10 dholland - There has been intermittent work on zfs, but as of November 2015
149 1.10 dholland nobody is known to be actively working on it
150 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
151 1.10 dholland - Contact riastradh or ?? for further information.
152 1.1 agc
153 1.1 agc
154 1.10 dholland 5. Seamless full-disk encryption
155 1.10 dholland --------------------------------
156 1.1 agc
157 1.10 dholland (This is only sort of a storage issue.) We have cgd, and it is
158 1.10 dholland believed to still be cryptographically suitable, at least for the time
159 1.10 dholland being. However, we don't have any of the following things:
160 1.1 agc
161 1.10 dholland + An easy way to install a machine with full-disk encryption. It
162 1.10 dholland should really just be a checkbox item in sysinst, or not much more
163 1.10 dholland than that.
164 1.5 agc
165 1.10 dholland + Ideally, also an easy way to turn on full-disk encryption for a
166 1.10 dholland machine that's already been installed, though this is harder.
167 1.1 agc
168 1.10 dholland + A good story for booting off a disk that is otherwise encrypted;
169 1.10 dholland obviously one cannot encrypt the bootblocks, but it isn't clear where
170 1.10 dholland in boot the encrypted volume should take over, or how to make a best
171 1.10 dholland effort at protecting the unencrypted elements needed to boot. (At
172 1.10 dholland least, in the absence of something like UEFI secure boot combined with
173 1.10 dholland an cryptographic oracle to sign your bootloader image so UEFI will
174 1.10 dholland accept it.) There's also the question of how one runs cgdconfig(8) and
175 1.10 dholland where the cgdconfig binary comes from.
176 1.1 agc
177 1.10 dholland + A reasonable way to handle volume passphrases. MacOS apparently uses
178 1.10 dholland login passwords for this (or as passphrases for secondary keys, or
179 1.10 dholland something) and this seems to work well enough apart from the somewhat
180 1.10 dholland surreal experience of sometimes having to log in twice. However, it
181 1.10 dholland will complicate the bootup story.
182 1.1 agc
183 1.10 dholland Given the increasing regulatory-level importance of full-disk
184 1.10 dholland encryption, this is at least a de facto requirement for using NetBSD
185 1.10 dholland on laptops in many circumstances.
186 1.1 agc
187 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
188 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
189 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
190 1.5 agc
191 1.5 agc
192 1.11 dholland 6. Finish tls-maxphys
193 1.11 dholland ---------------------
194 1.11 dholland
195 1.11 dholland The tls-maxphys branch changes MAXPHYS (the maximum size of a single
196 1.11 dholland I/O request) from a global fixed constant to a value that's probed
197 1.11 dholland separately for each particular I/O channel based on its
198 1.11 dholland capabilities. Large values are highly desirable for e.g. feeding large
199 1.11 dholland disk arrays but do not work with all hardware.
200 1.11 dholland
201 1.11 dholland The code is nearly done and just needs more testing and support in
202 1.11 dholland more drivers.
203 1.11 dholland
204 1.11 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
205 1.11 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
206 1.11 dholland - Contact tls for further information.
207 1.11 dholland
208 1.11 dholland
209 1.11 dholland 7. nvme suppport
210 1.11 dholland ----------------
211 1.11 dholland
212 1.11 dholland nvme ("NVM Express") is a hardware interface standard for PCI-attached
213 1.12 dholland SSDs. NetBSD now has a driver for these; however, it was ported from
214 1.12 dholland OpenBSD and is not (yet) MPSAFE. This is, unfortunately, a fairly
215 1.12 dholland serious limitation given the point and nature of nvme devices.
216 1.11 dholland
217 1.11 dholland Relatedly, the I/O path needs to be restructured to avoid software
218 1.11 dholland bottlenecks on the way to an nvme device: they are fast enough that
219 1.11 dholland things like disksort() do not make sense.
220 1.11 dholland
221 1.11 dholland Semi-relatedly, it is also time for scsipi to become MPSAFE.
222 1.11 dholland
223 1.12 dholland - As of May 2016 a port of OpenBSD's driver has been commited. This
224 1.12 dholland will be in -8.
225 1.14 mlelstv - The nvme driver is a backend to ld(4) which is MPSAFE, but we still
226 1.14 mlelstv need to attend to I/O path bottlenecks. Better instrumentation
227 1.14 mlelstv is needed.
228 1.12 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target for these points.
229 1.11 dholland - Contact msaitoh or agc for further information.
230 1.11 dholland
231 1.11 dholland
232 1.11 dholland 8. lfs64
233 1.10 dholland --------
234 1.5 agc
235 1.10 dholland LFS currently only supports volumes up to 2 TB. As LFS is of interest
236 1.10 dholland for use on shingled disks (which are larger than 2 TB) and also for
237 1.10 dholland use on disk arrays (ditto) this is something of a problem. A 64-bit
238 1.10 dholland version of LFS for large volumes is in the works.
239 1.5 agc
240 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 dholland is working on this.
241 1.10 dholland - It is close to being ready for at least experimental use and is
242 1.10 dholland expected to be in 8.0.
243 1.10 dholland - Responsible: dholland
244 1.5 agc
245 1.8 agc
246 1.11 dholland 9. Per-process namespaces
247 1.10 dholland -------------------------
248 1.5 agc
249 1.10 dholland Support for per-process variation of the file system namespace enables
250 1.10 dholland a number of things; more flexible chroots, for example, and also
251 1.10 dholland potentially more efficient pkgsrc builds. dholland thought up a
252 1.10 dholland somewhat hackish but low-footprint way to implement this.
253 1.5 agc
254 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 dholland is working on this.
255 1.10 dholland - It is scheduled to be in 8.0.
256 1.10 dholland - Responsible: dholland
257 1.5 agc
258 1.8 agc
259 1.11 dholland 10. lvm tidyup
260 1.11 dholland --------------
261 1.5 agc
262 1.10 dholland [agc says someone should look at our lvm stuff; XXX fill this in]
263 1.5 agc
264 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
265 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
266 1.10 dholland - Contact agc for further information.
267 1.5 agc
268 1.1 agc
269 1.11 dholland 11. Flash translation layer
270 1.11 dholland ---------------------------
271 1.9 agc
272 1.10 dholland SSDs ship with firmware called a "flash translation layer" that
273 1.10 dholland arbitrates between the block device software expects to see and the
274 1.10 dholland raw flash chips. FTLs handle wear leveling, lifetime management, and
275 1.10 dholland also internal caching, striping, and other performance concerns. While
276 1.10 dholland NetBSD has a file system for raw flash (chfs), it seems that given
277 1.10 dholland things NetBSD is often used for it ought to come with a flash
278 1.10 dholland translation layer as well.
279 1.10 dholland
280 1.10 dholland Note that this is an area where writing your own is probably a bad
281 1.10 dholland plan; it is a complicated area with a lot of prior art that's also
282 1.10 dholland reportedly full of patent mines. There are a couple of open FTL
283 1.10 dholland implementations that we might be able to import.
284 1.10 dholland
285 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
286 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
287 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
288 1.10 dholland
289 1.10 dholland
290 1.11 dholland 12. Shingled disk support
291 1.10 dholland -------------------------
292 1.10 dholland
293 1.10 dholland Shingled disks (or more technically, disks with "shingled magnetic
294 1.10 dholland recording" or SMR) can only write whole tracks at once. Thus, to
295 1.10 dholland operate effectively they require translation support similar to the
296 1.10 dholland flash translation layers found in SSDs. The nature and structure of
297 1.10 dholland shingle translation layers is still being researched; however, at some
298 1.10 dholland point we will want to support these things in NetBSD.
299 1.10 dholland
300 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 one of dholland's coworkers is looking at this.
301 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
302 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
303 1.10 dholland
304 1.10 dholland
305 1.11 dholland 13. ext3/ext4 support
306 1.10 dholland ---------------------
307 1.10 dholland
308 1.10 dholland We would like to be able to read and write Linux ext3fs and ext4fs
309 1.10 dholland volumes. (We can already read clean ext3fs volumes as they're the same
310 1.10 dholland as ext2fs, modulo volume features our ext2fs code does not support;
311 1.10 dholland but we can't write them.)
312 1.10 dholland
313 1.10 dholland Ideally someone would write ext3 and/or ext4 code, whether integrated
314 1.10 dholland with or separate from the ext2 code we already have. It might also
315 1.10 dholland make sense to port or wrap the Linux ext3 or ext4 code so it can be
316 1.10 dholland loaded as a GPL'd kernel module; it isn't clear if that would be more
317 1.10 dholland or less work than doing an implementation.
318 1.10 dholland
319 1.10 dholland Note however that implementing ext3 has already defeated several
320 1.10 dholland people; this is a harder project than it looks.
321 1.10 dholland
322 1.12 dholland - As of May 2016 there is a GSoC project to implement read-only ext4
323 1.12 dholland support, but (it not being summer yet) no particular progress.
324 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
325 1.10 dholland - Contact ?? for further information.
326 1.10 dholland
327 1.10 dholland
328 1.11 dholland 14. Port hammer from Dragonfly
329 1.10 dholland ------------------------------
330 1.10 dholland
331 1.10 dholland While the motivation for and role of hammer isn't perhaps super
332 1.10 dholland persuasive, it would still be good to have it. Porting it from
333 1.10 dholland Dragonfly is probably not that painful (compared to, say, zfs) but as
334 1.10 dholland the Dragonfly and NetBSD VFS layers have diverged in different
335 1.10 dholland directions from the original 4.4BSD, may not be entirely trivial
336 1.10 dholland either.
337 1.10 dholland
338 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
339 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
340 1.10 dholland - There probably isn't any particular person to contact; for VFS
341 1.10 dholland concerns contact dholland or hannken.
342 1.10 dholland
343 1.10 dholland
344 1.11 dholland 15. afs maintenance
345 1.10 dholland -------------------
346 1.10 dholland
347 1.10 dholland AFS needs periodic care and feeding to continue working as NetBSD
348 1.10 dholland changes, because the kernel-level bits aren't kept in the NetBSD tree
349 1.10 dholland and don't get updated with other things. This is an ongoing issue that
350 1.10 dholland always seems to need more manpower than it gets. It might make sense
351 1.10 dholland to import some of the kernel AFS code, or maybe even just some of the
352 1.10 dholland glue layer that it uses, in order to keep it more current.
353 1.10 dholland
354 1.10 dholland - jakllsch sometimes works on this.
355 1.10 dholland - We would like every release to have working AFS by the time it's
356 1.10 dholland released.
357 1.10 dholland - Contact jakllsch or gendalia about AFS; for VFS concerns contact
358 1.10 dholland dholland or hannken.
359 1.10 dholland
360 1.10 dholland
361 1.11 dholland 16. execute-in-place
362 1.10 dholland --------------------
363 1.10 dholland
364 1.10 dholland It is likely that the future includes non-volatile storage (so-called
365 1.10 dholland "nvram") that looks like RAM from the perspective of software. Most
366 1.10 dholland importantly: the storage is memory-mapped rather than looking like a
367 1.10 dholland disk controller. There are a number of things NetBSD ought to have to
368 1.10 dholland be ready for this, of which probably the most important is
369 1.10 dholland "execute-in-place": when an executable is run from such storage, and
370 1.10 dholland mapped into user memory with mmap, the storage hardware pages should
371 1.10 dholland be able to appear directly in user memory. Right now they get
372 1.10 dholland gratuitously copied into RAM, which is slow and wasteful. There are
373 1.10 dholland also other reasons (e.g. embedded device ROMs) to want execute-in-
374 1.10 dholland place support.
375 1.10 dholland
376 1.10 dholland Note that at the implementation level this is a UVM issue rather than
377 1.10 dholland strictly a storage issue.
378 1.10 dholland
379 1.10 dholland Also note that one does not need access to nvram hardware to work on
380 1.10 dholland this issue; given the performance profiles touted for nvram
381 1.10 dholland technologies, a plain RAM disk like md(4) is sufficient both
382 1.10 dholland structurally and for performance analysis.
383 1.10 dholland
384 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this. Some
385 1.10 dholland time back, uebayasi wrote some preliminary patches, but they were
386 1.10 dholland rejected by the UVM maintainers.
387 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
388 1.10 dholland - Contact dholland for further information.
389 1.10 dholland
390 1.10 dholland
391 1.15 christos 17. use extended attributes for ACL and capability storage
392 1.15 christos ----------------------------------------------------------
393 1.15 christos
394 1.15 christos Currently there is some support for extended attributes in ffs,
395 1.15 christos but nothing really uses it. I would be nice if we came up with
396 1.15 christos a standard format to store ACL's and capabilities like Linux has.
397 1.15 christos The various tools must be modified to understand this and be able
398 1.15 christos to copy them if requested. Also tools to manipulate the data will
399 1.15 christos need to be written.
400 1.15 christos
401 1.15 christos 18. coda maintenance
402 1.10 dholland --------------------
403 1.10 dholland
404 1.10 dholland Coda only sort of works. [And I think it's behind relative to
405 1.10 dholland upstream, or something of the sort; XXX fill this in.] Also the code
406 1.10 dholland appears to have an ugly incestuous relationship with FFS. This should
407 1.10 dholland really be cleaned up. That or maybe it's time to remove Coda.
408 1.10 dholland
409 1.10 dholland - As of November 2015 nobody is known to be working on this.
410 1.10 dholland - There is no clear timeframe or release target.
411 1.10 dholland - There isn't anyone in particular to contact.
412 1.15 christos - Circa 2012 christos made it work read-write and split it
413 1.15 christos into modules. Since then christos has not tested it.
414 1.9 agc
415 1.9 agc Alistair Crooks, David Holland
416 1.10 dholland Fri Nov 20 02:17:53 EST 2015
417 1.12 dholland Sun May 1 16:50:42 EDT 2016 (some updates)
418 1.12 dholland
419